Nothing in Common - NFP's Forum

It has been said that the Nihilistic Democratic Party's greatest challenge is getting the Danes to take the party seriously. But the question is whether it wouldn't go against the party's ideology for members to get serious and involved in it.

Why take it seriously, and why - as a member of NFP - should one take one's own party seriously?

One can just take it exactly seriously enough to have something to pass the time with until we go and drink our brains out later tonight...

There is a meaning to meaninglessness

dalsgaard for fuck's sake:D The meaning of meaninglessness is meaningless!

What's wrong with taking the party seriously? What does it even mean to be serious? Don't really get it

if it's all irrelevant, one might as well be serious about this as about anything else.

Then try describing "being serious"

I think you'll find that everyone takes it reasonably seriously, each in their own way ^^

Try being a bit serious, okay! That's simply too childish

Yes I withdraw my second post....

Yes be serious!, it's the future of Denmark we're talking about *giggle*

The Nihilistic Democratic Party is doomed to be a paradox, almost by definition, and that is one of the (many) appealing aspects of the party, which I regard as the most serious (!) party on the Danish political scene. Obviously, when you do not recognise reality but nonetheless sign up as an actor on the Danish political stage, where the other actors - primarily the politicians and the media - illusorily believe there is a reality, you run into problems. I therefore think it would be good if NFP emphasised and acknowledged to a greater degree that it is a paradox to work in politics while not believing one can make the world better.

The paradox was made clear last night on DR2, where the talk-show host asked the chief ideologist precisely whether NFP wanted to change the world for the better. After a failed attempt to dodge it, it still ended in a sort of 'yes'. Of course that was the product of a cunning questioning technique, rooted not in the philosophical insights underlying much of NFP's policy but precisely in the media-made spin reality, a reality whose existence there is broad consensus about among politicians and the media.

But actually, once you acknowledge and emphasise the paradox, I don't see that it is entirely impossible to say: yes, we want to change the world. When you, as I sense NFP does, try to turn philosophical insight into actual political measures, for example psychedelic colours in the metro, where the argument is that it would inspire commuters to spend the day on something more cheerful and perhaps realise that their work is irrelevant anyway, it is hard to say that you don't want something (good) for others.

I would probably - as a recently convinced nihilist - have answered the question roughly like this: We don't believe one can change the world, but we would of course like more Danes to realise that they are nihilists, and we want to inspire them to realise that there is no reality, progress or values - and get them to recognise their absolute irrelevance in the great cosmos. So yes, we would like to change the world - neither for the better nor the worse - but into nothing.

Normally it works like this: Insight/realisation -> theory -> practice.

NFP, as I see it, skips the theory part and turns insight/realisation directly into practice, and that is - not just serious, but also sensible, fun, and much needed.

I hope I'm not taking NFP far too seriously, or have misunderstood something fundamental, or that I come across as too analytical/spin-doctorish, but I believe NFP is an extremely welcome party on the Danish political scene, and I hope they get elected.

The way I see the world, we're all just one big accident.. There is no meaning to our presence, but because man is the way he is, I suppose we still seek some kind of meaning. That meaning, I'd say, is to have as good and fun a time as possible until it's all over! That must be what we're trying to change the world into, then? People should know that they don't have to get up in the morning if it doesn't feel right.. they don't have to do anything, but they can still choose to do something, in order to have fun. as such one could choose to just sleep every day away, to enjoy life that way, or work hard every day, if that's what makes life worth living, or drink one's brains out every evening, to get as close to thoughtlessness as possible! all in all this party is surely just about passing the time, and getting people to realise that they have no duty or meaning!

Or is it just me who sees it that way?